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We’re Not Crazy. . .The Systems Are!

The degree of insanity in the courts is something that is indescribable unless you have witnessed it for yourself. Small is big, left is right, slow is fast, up is down and weak is strong.

A term  has even been coined for individuals that experience psychic injuries due to assaults by legal abuses, ethical violations, betrayals, and fraud in the court system. It’s called “legal abuse syndrome” and was identified by Dr.Karen Huffer, a marriage and family counselor who was also brutally defrauded in the courts.

In my case State of Minnesota vs Deirdre Elise Evavold- Case No. 19HA-CR-15-4227the court ordered that I complete a forensic psychological evaluation and cognitive skills assessment as I “showed no remorse or comprehension” for my actions. “The absence of remorse should never justify additional punishment because due process guarantees defendants the right to assert their innocence, and defendants cannot be expected to show remorse if they do not admit the crime.” https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24618518 

The goal was always to get me to plead guilty or be found guilty when I’m not!

My sister also wrote a letter to the judge stating that I may have an undiagnosed mental health issue, hoping this would persuade the judge to apply leniency and a downward departure in sentencing. At that time, my family believed I could receive up to 12 years in prison due to the six felony convictions. In actuality, this was one alleged “crime” charged 6 different ways, which made someone with no prior criminal history, into a multiple offender in a single court case.                                                                     

Remember, it is an affirmative defense if a person charged under 609.26 DEPRIVING ANOTHER OF CUSTODIAL OR PARENTAL RIGHTS proves that: (1) the person reasonably believed the action taken was necessary to protect the child from physical or sexual assault or substantial emotional harm.

You can’t however, use the affirmative defense if you are deprived of your evidence and if the court prevents certain evidence from being presented at the trial of the case. As I’ve stated before, the overall goal is to break you down and get you to accept any injustice thrown at you. This was done through the use of perjured testimony,  illegal withholding and suppression of evidence to use in support of the affirmative defense, due process violations, witness tampering, abuse of discretion, judicial bias and malicious prosecution.

Anyhow, I completed my court ordered evaluation and unfortunately for those that wanted me to be diagnosed with a mental illness, I passed!

Am I being paranoid that the courts would want me to be diagnosed with a mental illness? I don’t think so . . . If the judge commits someone to treatment, it is typically for a six month period. The case is then reviewed with a hearing to determine whether the commitment should be extended. The exception to this is cases involving Mentally Ill and Dangerous Persons, Sexual Psychopathic Personalities, or Sexually Dangerous Persons. In those cases, there is not an end date to the commitment period; instead, periodic reviews are conducted by the court to determine whether the commitment continues to be necessary. http://www.mncourts.gov/Help-Topics/Civil-Commitments.aspx

The article below shows what happens when you speak out against court corruption.

Twin Cities lawyer suspended over mental health issues

Jill Clark faced discipline for accusing judges, others of misconduct. 
An outspoken and controversial Twin Cities attorney who repeatedly ran for a seat on the state’s high court has been suspended from practicing because of “serious mental health issues.”
According to an order filed Wednesday by the Minnesota Supreme Court, Jill Clark is unable to competently represent clients because of the unspecified mental illness experienced in 2012, which, according to the order, “raised substantial questions regarding Clark’s … ability to competently represent clients.”
The suspension puts a hold on disciplinary proceedings involving Clark. The Office of Lawyers Professional Responsibility (OLPR), which is responsible for lawyer discipline, filed a petition against her last February alleging that she falsely accused judges of misconduct and filed paperwork that made it appear a judge signed an order that he actually had denied.
Clark repeatedly tried to move the disciplinary proceedings to federal court, and the matter was eventually heard by District Judge Gerald Seibel, who was appointed as a referee by the state Supreme Court. Clark was hospitalized shortly before a hearing could take place last June, and Seibel recommended that the Supreme Court place her on “disability inactive” status. She appeared before the state Supreme Court in October to argue against that recommendation. Seibel recommended “disability inactive” status for a second time.
OLPR Director Martin Cole said Clark indicated she would again challenge the recommendation, but had not done so before her suspension. It remains in effect until either disability or disciplinary proceedings are completed, Cole said.
The suspension means Clark cannot represent other clients, but can represent herself in further court proceedings. She did not immediately respond to an e-mail or phone message seeking comment Thursday.
In December, Clark filed a federal lawsuit against Hennepin County District Court, the Minnesota Supreme Court, the Minnesota Court of Appeals and more than a dozen other defendants. In a complaint more than 100 pages long, she alleged the OLPR complaint against her stemmed from discrimination, retaliation and several other constitutional violations because she spoke out against judges or planned to run against them in upcoming elections. The case has been transferred to a federal judge in Iowa for further proceedings.
Clark has written about the case on her blog, Jill Clark Speaks, in which she refers to herself as a judicial reformist. She has repeatedly run for Minnesota chief justice and placed third in a primary in August with more than 61,000 votes, or 20 percent of the ballots cast.
Clark, who has practiced law in the state since 1988, is controversial in some legal circles for zealously defending clients and has been accused of obstructing the legal process and causing trouble. She and Jill Waite earned notoriety for several cases, including their successful defense of two Iowa brothers accused of assaulting an off-duty Minneapolis cop and of a former state representative accused of spousal abuse.
Waite was suspended from practicing in 2010 for failing to file tax returns in a timely manner and for other reasons, but Clarke continued practicing. In 2011 she obtained a $60,000 jury verdict against a local blogger, but the award was overturned last year by the Minnesota Court of Appeals.

Abby Simons • 612-673-4921

http://www.startribune.com/twin-cities-lawyer-suspended-over-mental-health-issues/187367881/

THE REAL STORY SUMMED UP IN ONE PARAGRAPH

John Remington Graham                               

Jill Clark is one of the most gallant and capable lawyers in Minnesota. I think I can assess the quality of a lawyer, because I have been one 46 years, including service as a public defender, public prosecutor, and law professor. Jill is on “disability” status, because she has asked for judicial reform. That’s the real story in a nutshell. — John Remington Graham of the Minnesota Bar (#3664X)


  Same song, different verse. . .

(credit:Minnesota Judicial Branch/Michelle MacDonald For Supreme Court)

Attorney Michelle MacDonald also ran for the Minnesota Supreme Court in 2014 endorsed by the Republican Party but lost, getting 46.5 percent of the vote. MacDonald  ran again in 2016 however, Natalie Hudson won re-election. She was chosen by Gov. Dayton to take Justice Alan Page’s spot when he retired.

According to MinnPost, an incumbent hasn’t lost a re-election bid since the 1940s.

Michelle MacDonald also sued a judge on behalf of a client. Going up against a judge and the legal system has made MacDonald a target of the very system she is fighting against every day. Judge David Knutson has continually demonstrated misconduct and went to extreme measures to intimidate MacDonald at the trial of her client in 2013. During a recess on the second day of the trial, MacDonald was placed under arrest for the offense of Contempt of Court due to taking a photo when court was not in session.

In April of 2013, a Rosemount police officer arrested Michelle MacDonald on suspicion of driving while intoxicated and resisting arrest. Denying she’d been drinking, MacDonald refused a field sobriety test unless she was in the presence of a judge. Minnesota Statute 169.91

Michelle was labeled with a “DUI”, which had nothing to do with the forensic facts of what happened. Michelle’s case was a traffic stop, and more accurately an unlawful pullover by Alex Eckstein.  Michelle did not have any alcohol on the night she was stopped without probable cause.

  1. After dialogue with the officer about the reason for the stop, she was not asked to take a Breathalyzer or perform a field sobriety test.
  2. She asked to see a judge pursuant to Minnesota Statute 169.91 because it was obvious this officer was using questionable measures to fill his quota and was clearly abusing his power and authority. Any citizen can invoke this statute however, as can be seen from this incident, the system does not take kindly to exposing those who are not playing by the rules.
  3. Michelle was held and released from the Rosemount Police Station with NO CHARGES filed against her.
  4. On her own initiative, she went directly to a hospital for a drug and alcohol blood test to put to rest any questions about this incident. The tests came back zero alcohol and zero drugs. 
  5. Michelle filed an employee complaint against the Police Officer who unlawfully pulled her over.
  6. In response, she received a Citation in the mail with five criminal charges against her including charges for driving under the influence.
The Result: Jury convicts Michelle MacDonald of test refusal, resisting arrest

A Dakota County jury convicted Minnesota Supreme Court candidate Michelle MacDonald of refusing to submit to a breath test and obstructing the legal process in connection with an April 2013 traffic stop.

This should have been the headline in ALL media coverage of this insanity!   

MacDonald has stated that in order to demonize and discredit anyone that is exposing corruption, they either portray you as “Crazy, a Criminal or a Conspiracy Theorist.”

Michael Brodkorb, source: startribune.com

We also have Mr. Michael Brodkorb who became the main mouthpiece for spreading disinformation when MacDonald ran for Supreme Court. Brodkorb was and has been fixated on MacDonald and our criminal cases, covering them exclusively and not covering any other case or other news story. Brodkorb has lied by ommission and has refused to report facts and details of these cases. (Brodkorb and Judge Asphaug also made sure that the private letter my sister wrote to the judge was made public).                                        

In journalism the term hack writer is used to describe a writer who is deemed to operate as a mercenary or “pen for hire”, expressing their client’s opinions in articles. (I think it’s pretty obvious who Brodkorb’s clients are)!

Comments Brodkorb has made in some of his writings about me:

Evavold connected to Michelle MacDonald

Evavold previously served as Michelle MacDonald’s campaign manager for MacDonald’s campaign for the Minnesota Supreme Court in 2014.

Evavold is not an attorney, but is an activist, who also ran a blog focused on exposing what Evavold and her supporters believe are injustices and corruption in the judicial system


Last but not least, we have the 20/20 hatchet job on this case that originally aired in April 2016 and was rebroadcasted in March 2017. What do they have to gain in pushing this false narrative? Well, six enormous media conglomerates combine to produce about 90 percent of all the media that Americans consume. The mainstream media is the mouthpiece of the establishment and promotes the agenda of the establishment.

The big news networks have developed an almost incestuous relationship with the federal government in recent years.  But of course the same could be said of the relationship that the media has with the big corporations that own stock in their parent companies and that advertise on their networks.
This is one of the reasons why we very rarely ever see any hard hitting stories on the big networks anymore.  The flow of information through the corporate-dominated media is very tightly controlled, and there are a lot of gatekeepers that make sure that the “wrong stories” don’t get put out to the public.  7 THINGS ABOUT THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA THAT THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW 

Family Courts are “government” and as such are supported by public funding. A multibillion dollar enterprise has been created by the family court divorce, domestic abuse and child abuse industries. Currently, non-profit and for profit advocacy groups nationwide and in the state of MN are obtaining court connected federal funding through Health and Human Services to infulence custody cases.

FEDERAL & STATE GOVERNMENTS DEFRAUDING MILLIONS IN CHILD SUPPORT SCAM ON MASSIVE PROPORTIONS !

Bottom Line

 

Less Is More

Photo Courtesy of Pixabay

“To be governed is to be watched over, inspected, spied on, directed, legislated, regimented, indoctrinated, preached at, controlled, assessed, evaluated, censored, commanded; all by creatures that have neither the right, nor wisdom, nor virtue…. To be governed means that at every move, operation, or transaction one is noted, registered, entered in a census, taxed, stamped, priced, assessed, patented, licensed, authorized, recommended, admonished, prevented, reformed, set right, corrected. Government means to be subjected to tribute, trained, ransomed, exploited, monopolized, extorted, pressured, mystified, robbed; all in the name of public utility and the general good. Then, at the first sign of resistance or word of complaint, one is repressed, fined, despised, vexed, pursued, hustled, beaten up, imprisoned, shot, machine-gunned, judged, sentenced, deported, sacrificed, sold, betrayed, and to cap it all, ridiculed, mocked, outraged, and dishonored. That’s government, that’s its justice and its morality.” Daniel Guérin Anarchism: From Theory to Practice

Simmer down. . . I’m not an anarchist! I just happen to prefer a minimal government vs. a corrupt, abusive, inefficient and tyrannical government. Call me crazy but hey, that’s just me!

Northern Service Center West St. Paul

Anyhow, I had my first group probation meeting today in West St. Paul for case no. 19HA-CR-15-4227.

I don’t qualify for a transfer of my probation to Stearns Co. as I’m deemed to be low risk, and yet, I have six felony convictions!

I drove 1.5 hrs., to wait over an hour, to meet with a probation officer for 5 minutes.

 

Dakota County Community Corrections 2016-2017 Comprehensive Plan (Click on title to view)

Excerpts: Our integrated service delivery work for offenders will create an integrated infrastructure with consumer channels of access, common process functions, coordinated service delivery and ultimately, sustainable outcomes for our offenders.

COMMUNITY CORRECTIONS CONTRACTS TO PROVIDE SERVICES TO ADULT & JUVENILE OFFENDERS    

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GRANTS, SUBSIDIES, REIMBURSEMENTS 

Remember, Grant Dollars=Taxpayer Dollars

Although placing someone on probation is cheaper than imprisonment, it is still a significant expense. A 2014 Pew Study of 34 American states found the government spent around $2.5 billion on probation and parole programs in 2008 compared to $18.65 billion spent on prisons. 

MN Dept. of Corrections – Dakota County Comprehensive Plan Budget 

As government policy, the probation system has never been about helping people move on with their lives after committing a crime. Instead, it has enabled the government to dig deeper into peoples’ private lives in search of punishable flaws. The case for eliminating criminal probation

The real goal is to keep the problems going to keep the money flowing. There are very few aspects of any public system that do NOT tie back into funding, grants and the setup of monopolies at all levels of government.

Blue Is The New Black

Since my incarceration, I frequently get the question, “have you seen Orange Is The New Black?”

I hadn’t seen it before my imprisonment, but have binge-watched 2 seasons since my release. Unlike other series, it didn’t take long to get burned out on the tedium of this show. Yes there are similarities with the show and real life incarceration, but keep in mind the series is about prison life and even though the terms are often used interchangeably, prisons and jails are different.

The United States has approximately 1.8 million people behind bars: about 100,000 in federal custody, 1.1 million in state custody, and 600,000 in local jails. Prisons hold inmates convicted of federal or state crimes; jails hold people awaiting trial or serving short sentences. The United States now imprisons more people than an
y other country in the world—perhaps half a million more than Communist China. The Prison-Industrial Complex

RAMSEY COUNTY CORRECTIONAL FACILITY

Once you arrive at RCCF, you are photographed, fingerprinted and charged a $20 booking fee. Once you’re booked and given inmate attire, you’re assigned to a housing unit. There are 3 different dorms for women. The main one has cells vs. bunk beds in an open room. I was assigned to the top bunk in Cell #7 and had 10 different “cellies” during my 4 months.(Oh and no pillows unless you have a medical reason to have one).

          “Blues & Shoes” Ramsey County Correctional Facility Female Inmate Uniforms

You can’t bring any hygiene items, electronic devices, or other personal items in, but you can purchase items from Inmate Canteen for outrageously exorbitant prices. RCCF inmates are given a hygiene bag after being admitted which includes a plastic cup, toothbrush, toothpaste, deodorant, comb, an elastic hair tie and flip flops. No jewelry is allowed.

RCCF Toothpaste (also worked well as glue)

Pepsodent was the “real” toothpaste that you could order from Inmate Canteen and Suave products were like gold! Shampoo and conditioner was only 4 bucks a bottle. If you had it, you shared it with the dorm. Because I was on the lower tier, I constantly had people knocking on my cell door to “borrow” things, including water from my sink for their ramen noodles.

The 89¢ rubber pen     

  • No makeup is allowed but inmates do get creative with colored pencils. The pencils also have to be purchased through Inmate Canteen unless you win them as  a prize for attending the Learning Center. The Center provides adult basic education programs in reading, writing, math, and GED prep as well as classes on personal finance, job seeking and retention, career exploration, computer skills, and driver’s license preparation and testing.
  • Lights on at 6:30am and lights out at 10:30pm (the lights are never really off, just dimmed).
  • Inmates are required to stand for count at 11:05am, 5:05pm, and 10;00pm. That means that you are locked in your cell and you must stand by the window in your door to make sure everyone is in the dorm.
  • Inmates cannot enter others cells or loiter in front of cell doorways.
  • No food from meals can be brought into your cell.
  • No note passing or canteen items between dorms.
  • Razors can only be used after 6:30pm
  • Inmates are allowed 4 books, I bible, and 4 magazines (Perk for working in the library was getting newer magazines before pages were torn out for recipes, decorating ideas, etc.)
  • Inmates are only allowed one 20-minute video visit per week using a phone and video camera.
  • Inmates get one free, 60-second phone call after being admitted. Legal calls to lawyers and probation officers are free. A listing of free calls is provided to all inmates. Other calls may have a fee that is charged by the minute. Inmates are allowed to make collect calls. The Prison Policy Initiative found that families pay $1 billion annually to call relatives in prison, and until 2013, calls could cost $17 for a 15 minutes (the FCC cracked down on this and those calls now cost $3.75). What Incarceration Costs American Families
  • No volume on TV. Must purchase $30 headset to listen.
  • $5 to see the nurse
  • $15 to have a tooth pulled

Rule violations may result in loss of good time, time spent in security, administrative segregation  restitution and/or upward departure of established sanctions.

Cash or Credit? Paying for Your Time: How Charging Inmates Fees Behind Bars May Violate the Excessive Fines Clause

Excessive Fines Clause of the Eighth Amendment The Eighth Amendment provides “[e]xcessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.” I guess the majority of judges didn’t get the memo!

“Over the last 30 years, for-profit prison corporations, such as Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) and GEO Group (formerly Wackenhut Corrections Corporation), have benefited from the dramatic rise in incarceration and detention in the United States. Since the advent of prison privatization in the early 1980’s, the number of people behind bars in the US has risen by more than 500 percent to more than 2.2 million people.   Image result for treatment industrial complex

The result is an emerging “Treatment Industrial Complex” (TIC) — the movement of the for-profit prison industry into correctional medical care, mental health treatment, and ‘community corrections.’ Community corrections include corrections programs outside of jail or prison walls: probation and parole services including halfway houses; day reporting centers; drug and alcohol treatment programs; home confinement; electronic monitoring; and an array of supportive services such as educational classes and job training. Community corrections is a huge business, with three times as many people under “community corrections” programs as currently incarcerated in prison facilities.

While the prison industrial complex was dependent on incarceration or detention in prisons, jails, and other correctional institutions, this emerging “treatment industrial complex” allows the same corporations (and many new ones) to profit from providing treatment-oriented programs and services.

As a result, this emerging Treatment Industrial Complex has the potential to ensnare more individuals, under increased levels of supervision and surveillance, for increasing lengths of time—in some cases, for the rest of a person’s life.  How For-Profit Prison Corporations are Undermining Efforts to Treat and Rehabilitate Prisoners for Corporate Gain


Law enforcement agencies can also get extra money from federal grants.

Community Corrections – Grants and Funding Bureau of Justice Assistance (BJA)

BJA supports law enforcement, courts, corrections, treatment, victim services, technology, and prevention initiatives that strengthen the nation’s justice system. BJA offers a Grant Writing and Management Academy and provides funding through a number of programs for corrections.

Federal grants are never free and they almost always come with strings attached. Federal “assistance” allows the feds to dictate state policies and even what the states do with large chunks of their own money.


The bottom line is whether it’s jail or prison, people are being incarcerated for non-violent and non-criminal offenses. It’s the money that drives this system and there is a lot of money to be made from criminalizing nonviolent activities and jailing people for nonviolent offenses.


The essence of nomocracy, the rule of law, is limitation of the discretion of officials, and providing a process by which errors or abuse of discretion can be corrected. Some discretion is unavoidable, because law cannot anticipate every eventuality or how to decide which law may apply to a given situation. What guidance the law cannot provide is supposed to be provided by standard principles of justice and due process, reason, and the facts of each case. Ideally, officials should be mutually consistent and interchangeable, making similar decisions in similar cases, so that no one can gain an undue advantage by choosing the official or exercising undue influence on the official or on the process he operates. We trust officials to exercise such discretion as they have with wisdom, justice, and competence, to avoid government that is arbitrary, insolent, discriminatory, prejudiced, intrusive and corrupt.     Abuse of Judicial Discretion~ Jon Roland 

We’re definitely past the point of avoiding government that is arbitrary, intrusive and corrupt. The good news is that people are waking up and wising up and starting to demand a governance  that will preserve, protect and promote truth, justice and liberty.

BACK FROM THE BIG HOUSE

So. . . there’s 120 days of my life that I’ll never get back!

Most of you know that my trial was scheduled from September 26th-September 29th, 2016.

The trial went forward despite my arguments regarding witness tampering and obstruction of justice due to illegal withholding of a portion of my evidence. Also, the evidence I did receive was not disclosed in time to afford me the opportunity to make beneficial use of it. (Received on September 1st and trial was scheduled for September 26th).

Image courtesy of suphakit73 at FreeDigitalPhotos.net

Judge Asphaug also demonstrated prejudicial judicial conduct by granting the State’s motion to have substantial exonerating evidence not introduced in the trial.

I did not have a settlement conference and was offered a plea deal on the first day of my trial. As I’ve said numerous times before, the goal was always to have me plead guilty or be found guilty without access to all of my evidence. After I declined the plea deal, the attitude of the prosecutor and the judge changed significantly and became quite hostile. Here’s the thing, a statement must be free and voluntary, not extracted by any sorts of threats or promises, however slight. Judge Asphaug indicated that if I lost by having a jury trial, she would have the ability to impose a harsh sentence which is exactly what happened. Plea bargaining extorts guilty pleas and the trial tax is just another way to tilt the playing field in favor of the state.

Below is an excerpt from Trial Tax And Plea Bargaining   BY  

“There’s no law written saying that exercising your right to a jury trial and losing will cost you more. There’s this euphemism in legal land called a “trial tax.”  If you exercise your constitutional right to a trial and lose, you typically get reamed even harder than if you took a plea deal.
Why? The incredible amount of unnecessary and unjust laws you could break bog down the courts. Rather than give every defendant his day in court, plea deals are offered. Courts use the “trial tax” as an excuse to discourage jury trials.  Judges, prosecutors, and court staff perceive this fundamental right of our American republic as an inconvenience and intimidate the accused into taking deals struck in back rooms.
Remember this next time it is presumed that our courts and laws are fair: Court personnel consider due process a punishable offense.”

Also, I was originally charged with two felony counts and four additional charges were added. This dirty trick is called charge stacking. Read more about this tactic below:

Prosecutors, Charge Stacking, and Plea Deals 

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As Attorney Michelle MacDonald once told me, “This is a process of torture where heavier and heavier weights are placed on the chest of the defendant until they either suffocate or confess.”

I did not suffocate nor did I confess to criminal behavior that did not exist.

Below are my special conditions of probation:

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Below are two additional conditions that were not in the community corrections document.

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roa0002It’s clear that this was a malicious prosecution and that I was deprived of the right to a fair trial before an impartial judge. This was also a manipulation of public opinion by false media reports and retaliation for putting the system on trial.

Stay tuned for further updates.

THE ULTIMATE HYPOCRISY

 

Grazzini-Rucki sentenced to jail, probation

Published September 21, 2016 at 10:49 am

Dave Rucki shares victim impact statement in court

Sandra Grazzini-Rucki was sentenced to 250 days in jail and six years probation after a jury convicted her in July of six felony counts of deprivation of parental rights.A Lakeville mother who hid her two teen daughters for more than two and a half years during a custody battle was sentenced in Dakota County court today.

Grazzini-Rucki, who was given credit for the 133 days she has already spent in jail, will serve the rest of her jail sentence in 15-day increments for the next six years, reporting to jail on Nov. 18 – the day her two daughters were found by law enforcement – starting in 2017.

She was ordered to pay two $944 fines – the dollar amount is the number of days the two girls were missing.

Grazzini-Rucki will participate in the sentence-to-serve program for 12 days each year for the next six. If she fails to show up for any of the days, those days will be added to her jail time.

Grazzini-Rucki was smiling as she was arrested in court at the end of sentencing hearing and was ordered immediately to serve a 34-day jail sentence.

The children’s father David Rucki said he felt the jail time was appropriate.

“It’s not about retribution,” Rucki said. “It’s about being accountable … that’s all I’m looking for is accountability.”

Continue Reading: http://sunthisweek.com/2016/09/21/grazzini-rucki-sentenced-to-jail-probation/

 

WITH ADVOCATES LIKE THESE. . .

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Lori Musol

“Crime victims have rights! Investigations into criminal activity should result in justice for the victims.”  Lori Musolf.

More Quotes from Lori

“Sam’s a very conniving and manipulative person. My heart went out to her, because at first I did believe her.”

“I have no doubt that the judge is corrupt as the day is long, that’s why I got involved. There’s no denying the shit she had to go through in the courtroom,”

“Sam is vindictive, to me this whole plot was about revenge against David and about money.”

“She felt like he would kill her if he had the chance.”

“I don’t trust David and I do think the man is dangerous”

“Sam did this to herself and she deserves the consequences from it. Hopefully Sam isn’t having any communication with them” (referring to Sandra’s children)

“If she’s facing prison time she’s going to run.I can see her taking the girls and running again”

Excerpts from interview with Detective Dronen: 

Detective Dronen

Deetective Dronen

Detective Dronen:  Let me ask you something along those lines when the girls first went missing on the 19th of April.

Lori: I think I’ve got the timelines figured out when we interviewed (referring to Fox9 interview of the girls). I believe I had gotten a call that night that they were gone and I believe that was a Friday night. Things have just been triggering memories for me when I read stuff like, you know I’ll read through these stories and everything else and I actually talked to Trish and I think I’ve got the timeline figured out. So they went missing Friday night they called me on Saturday the next day because we tried to set up the interview for Saturday but we could not find a photographer that would work the weekend. We didn’t interview them till Monday morning, my husband was home during that time too and we are trying to get everything figured out. So I figure it was between Saturday and Sunday that we talked on the phone and it was either Sunday or Monday we did the interview.

Detective Dronen: When this all happened, the girls called you and you called Trish. Had Trish ever heard about the story before that?

Lori: Yeah, Trish had heard about it. Fox nine had actually been down to. . . well no that was after the girls disappeared. I don’t know that she heard about it before they disappeared other than just well her and I are friends as well, so I probably brought it up to her because I did talk to her about other Carver County cases I was working on. She knew about the Carver County corruption blog once I got involved with those people down there. Sam didn’t come into the picture until after I’d been involved with the Carver County cases for a while

Lori: (After the interview with Samantha and Giana) “I left and went straight to St. Cloud and Dede and Sam were already there so I knew they didn’t have those girls. They were already at the hotel when we got there, they were waiting in the parking lot.”


Detective Dronen: One of the things I came across when I was going through some emails, was a conversation between you and Dede, which looks like it probably started in May, probably shortly after the stories in the Star Tribune were coming out.

Lori: That’s when I was trying to get information from her, hoping she’d spill her guts.

Detective Dronen: Then it kind of jumped to September and then went into October.

Lori: Because she did not know until those stories actually started coming out. I mean she did not know, in fact, I don’t know that she even really knows now that I actually talked to you guys and gave you information.


Detective Dronen: Like I said, unfortunately I’ve talked to a lot of people who’ve had issues with family court going through this case, because it seems like just about everybody has had their experiences and that’s part of the reason I think that they’re willing to try and help. Everybody’s had some sort of issues with courts and you know, I’ll be honest with you, I’m sure the system is definitely not perfect. Even just looking at this case – just how long this case got drawn on and on and on for a multitude of reasons all the way around.

Lori: The first year, 2 years even that those girls were gone, I honestly didn’t think anybody cared or were looking for them. You know when it finally came up again, I was like I’ve got to start digging here, I’ve got to figure out something because this is ridiculous. It’s just gone on way too long.

Detective Dronen: I would agree on that. I’m just boxing up this case now to try and be done.


Detective Dronen: Since finding the girls, we have to approach them very carefully, because of course part of the reason they’re so upset is that they feel they were never really listened to in the first place. I think, you know depending on how some things went when they were dealing with the court system in the beginning, it probably seems like it wasn’t necessarily their opinion that mattered regardless of what they said. Unfortunately for me though, I look at this cae and it just looks like the worst of the worst on the planet. I’m trying to figure it all out and go from there because the allegations are wildly different on both sides, so that’s the fun part for me.


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